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Title: Programming languages
Post by: Rorshach on March 06, 2009, 10:11:12 PM
Hello All,

Just curious what programming languages people used besides basic & ML? Has anyone used Forth, Logo, Pilot, or any of the several Abacus had released like C or fortran? I'm thinking of languages used directly on the 64 not cross development things.


Title: Re: Programming languages
Post by: RobertB on March 12, 2009, 05:45:14 AM
     A couple of months ago I received the complete package for SuperForth 64.

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Title: Re: Programming languages
Post by: Paul on March 12, 2009, 05:56:12 AM
I remember LOGO on the Commodore 64, with Turtle graphics.  That was actually a really big deal back in the day, to teach some of the concepts of programming.  I wonder if there's a modern day equivalent? 


Title: Re: Programming languages
Post by: Rorshach on March 12, 2009, 06:27:53 PM
Unfortunately there is no modern equivalent. I did see one basic language advertised over the internet a few years ago but I can't say if its still available. NOTE: that was real basic not the cookie cutter fake visual basic script microslop peddles. Certainly not when no computer manufacturer includes a programming language of any kind with any system. One cannot even buy any programming language in a computer store anymore nor have these been available in nearly 20 years. Its a sad state of affairs when programming is completely unavailable to anybody. These days trying to get a programming language is regarded as almost a criminal act.

I much prefer what was thought in the 80's where every manufacturer included at least one programming language with their system and often a brief introductory manual should anyone want to get started programming. Last time one of my clients wanted me to find visual basic for him the least expensive was $900 and that was special order as the store wouldn't stock it. Needless to say he didn't buy it as it was DOUBLE what he paid for his computer.


Title: Re: Programming languages
Post by: Rorshach on March 12, 2009, 07:05:45 PM
Forgot to mention I did get Commodore pilot a few months ago which I should get using more. Oh Digitalquirk as you may have seen you can download logo for 64 now but without the manual its not so useful. Something I could do when my bbs is running is have an area which is repository of source code for some of these other languages on retro computers. Looked on the internet a few times. A few places selling languages at high prices and few articles but nothing much for source code for most of the older languages.


Title: Re: Programming languages
Post by: RobertB on March 12, 2009, 08:15:08 PM
     I have a Comal 2.0 cart, but I never got into studying the language.

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Title: Re: Programming languages
Post by: Rorshach on March 12, 2009, 10:04:21 PM
the Cartridge comal is good to have. I haven't seen many of those around. I remember it was popular in the 80's but only on commodore it seems.


Title: Re: Programming languages
Post by: SmallCleverDinosaur on March 25, 2009, 04:43:31 PM
     I have a Comal 2.0 cart, but I never got into studying the language.

Robert, there was also a Comal cart for the C128 (picture) (http://www.commodore.se/bilder_128/comal80.jpg). Have you ever seen a real one?


Title: Re: Programming languages
Post by: RobertB on March 25, 2009, 05:33:04 PM
Have you ever seen a real one?
     Oooo, I've never seen that before!  :)

                  Truly,
                  Robert Bernardo
                  Fresno Commodore User Group
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Title: Re: Programming languages
Post by: Rorshach on March 26, 2009, 05:04:12 AM
Anyone know of a place I could find some smaller fortran programs to try out on the Abacus Fortran 64 compiler. I got a back up for my lost disk last year but have never used it again since. Just curious to see it in action. I did a search for it on the internet and found a lot of windows fortran compilers which are not what I am looking for.